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|Posted by: Col. Radec Nov 15 2010, 04:05 AM|
| Do you guys watch any? If so, what matches have you seen?
I just watched Pacquiao vs. Margarito with my family the night before, and it was insane. Margarito is like 15 pounds heavier and twice as big as Pacman, but the spunky little Boxing Congressman pounded 7 different kinds of crap from Margarito, and then some! Margarito was big and his punches were hard, but for every punch he threw, Pacman instantly threw back 10, with bigger and more accurate impacts, to boot. In the later rounds, Margarito made a valiant effort by blocking Pacman's devastating punches with his face, along with a few nasty uppercuts of his own. It was so bad that after the fight, Margarito's Spartan beard was almost completely wilted and gone.
All in all, the fight went the whole 12 rounds, and I have to tip my hat to Margarito for taking it to the distance, but in the end, Pacman made him look Asian and slotted him down as 8th notch on Pacquiao's World Champ belt. He even carried Margarito through the 12th Round because the damage was so bad, he didn't want to mess the guy up further to permanent proportions.
How about you guys?
|Posted by: Relative Risk Nov 15 2010, 06:32 AM|
|Pacman versus Mayweather. Enough said.|
|Posted by: Col. Radec Nov 15 2010, 07:08 AM|
|Yes! I want it to happen. Who would you bet on? I'm guessing Mayweather, right? I'm obviously going to root for my fam's national hero, their Boxing Congressman Pacquiao!|
|Posted by: Relative Risk Nov 15 2010, 08:20 AM|
|As much as it pains me to say... Pacman. I've been a Mayweather devotee since that RJJ fight, but I doubt Mayweather has it in him to defeat an animal like Pacman. Explains the constant postponing.|
|Posted by: Spartan198 Nov 15 2010, 12:40 PM|
| I saw Mike Tyson knock out Shawn Michaels and Mayweather vs Big Show at Wrestlemania. Does that count?
Edit: Actually, I have one I know counts. I saw Bart Gunn vs Butterbean at Wrestlemania 16, which was a legitimate boxing match.
|Posted by: Col. Radec Nov 17 2010, 01:36 PM|
| Also saw some of Pacquiao's past battles. Pacman vs. Hatton was hilarious, especially since Hatton ate in the second round after being billed as bigger, meaner, and stronger. The time he beat Cotto's dome in was extraordinary. So much that Cotto's wife had to leave during the 9th round. Watching Pacman batter away at a cowering Clottey earlier this year was awesome.
I love how this guy gives me something to root for, you know? He's short and slight in frame, but has hidden muscle and firepower, enough to regularly take on guys three times his size.
Oh, and I see you're a wrasslin' freak, eh, Spartan? Orton for the win!
|Posted by: Spartan198 Nov 18 2010, 06:15 AM|
|Yeah, big wrestling fan, but there's already a topic for that, so let's avoid cluttering this one up with OT posts.|
|Posted by: METALHEADROY7 Nov 26 2010, 11:13 PM|
|i would like to see jill vs sheva in a boxing match. in reality, pacquio vs mayweather.|
|Posted by: Spartan198 Nov 27 2010, 03:52 AM|
Jill would be the clear winner there with being a former Delta operator.
|Posted by: METALHEADROY7 Nov 28 2010, 09:59 PM|
|i would give that to sheva simply cause ive only seen them in action in re5. and i assume sheva underwent similar training in africa.|
|Posted by: Relative Risk Nov 30 2010, 05:46 AM|
|Roy, are you saying that you believe Sheva underwent similar training in Africa...comparable to Jill's Delta Force training?|
|Posted by: Col. Radec Nov 30 2010, 05:52 AM|
|You do know what Delta Force is, right, Roy?|
|Posted by: Spartan198 Nov 30 2010, 09:59 AM|
| Delta is one of the most elite special operations units in the world, if not the most elite special operations unit in the world. These guys (and girls, if the "Funny Platoon" rumors are true) were the ones that defeated the Iraqi army before NATO forces even set foot in Iraq in 2003. The only units I'd (in my limited knowledge as a civilian) consider "on par" with them would be SAD, DEVGRU, and the SAS.
Any training Sheva underwent in Africa is the Cub Scouts compared to what Jill's capable of.
|Posted by: METALHEADROY7 Nov 30 2010, 09:36 PM|
|guys, im a 19 year old dude, i know some stuff, i dont know other stuff. thats why i say might have had similar training. also im talking talking boxing match, not kung fu karate mma whatever stuff, so calm down, just a thought.|
|Posted by: Spartan198 Dec 1 2010, 03:32 AM|
Well, how can you say Sheva might have had training "similar" to that of the unit in Africa when you apparently didn't even know what said unit was and henceforth had no idea what kind of training Jill underwent?
But, for the record, you're right this is regarding boxing. The unit doesn't teach boxing, they teach hand to hand combat...
|Posted by: METALHEADROY7 Dec 1 2010, 12:34 PM|
|thats all im saying spartan, id still say sheva would win in boxing, but jill would win in other areas.|
|Posted by: Relative Risk Dec 4 2010, 07:32 PM|
The "Funny Platoon" rumor has been circulating since the '80s; if using female operatives wasn't true back then it almost certainly is a reality now. And SAD (more precisely, SOG) earns a somewhat redundant mention since their operatives are recruited from the spec ops community.
Hmm, I'm a 23-year-old girl, and I learned about Delta Force when I was 14. It's more realistic to imagine Jill has entered the ring once or twice in her lifetime--many police academies have boxing programs, and our armed forces do hold branch championships that culminate in the interservice Armed Forces Boxing Championship--than to envision a guerrilla child-fighter learning the discipline.
Your lacking military knowledge aside, is there any particular reasoning behind your belief that Sheva could defeat Jill, Roy?
|Posted by: Col. Radec Dec 4 2010, 09:22 PM|
| Guys? I'm imagining Jill in boxing gear. Headgear and gloves and mouthpiece and all that.
She beats down Sheva in that ring and says "Eat my S.T.A.R.S.!" Or her sandwiches, if you're feelin' frisky.
Yes'm, Jill wins. Hands Down.
|Posted by: Spartan198 Dec 5 2010, 07:05 AM|
You clearly didn't get what I was saying in the right context. What I'm saying is that boxing is an inferior form of hand to hand combat compared to whatever a Tier 1 SMU like Delta practices.
|Posted by: METALHEADROY7 Dec 6 2010, 12:46 AM|
|man i never win anything. fine then. im calling in all nukes set straight to this alternate universe. in t-minus 30 hours.|
|Posted by: Spartan198 Dec 6 2010, 03:36 AM|
If you're going to make an argument, you need good enough reasoning behind it to convince those in disagreement (like myself and Risky, in this case) that your side of the discussion is correct. If you go in expecting us to just throw up our hands and tell you you're correct without us being firmly convinced of it, you'll only be disappointed.
|Posted by: Relative Risk Dec 7 2010, 01:46 AM|
Anyway, back on topic!
Hey, Radec, check this out:
Marky Mark dodged a bullet or two in Manila! LOL
|Posted by: Col. Radec Dec 7 2010, 01:54 AM|
| ...Well I wish he didn't dodge those bullets!
Oh yeah, Marky Mark, tell everyone that the only way you can beat a boxing champ is by sucker-punching him. Real wise. At least he was joking, but still, this gets my goat.
I mean, doesn't he have another video game to movie franchise to ruin? Or is he too busy with his non-existent rap career for that?
|Posted by: METALHEADROY7 Dec 8 2010, 06:08 PM|
|same here back to real boxing, paquiao Vs. Mayweather. who wons and why?|
|Posted by: Master Daddy V Jan 3 2011, 04:59 PM|
|Dude there's no real action in boxing except guys practically dancing around the ring and throwing occasional punches.|
|Posted by: Relative Risk Jan 5 2011, 07:14 AM|
...I will pay your airfare if you pledge to fly over to the Philippines and repeat that aloud, in a crowded public space.
Anyway, to all boxing fans, did anyone catch this? Somehow I completely missed this story:
I'm beginning to think Mayweather orchestrated his arrest to avoid Pacman. I'd definitely choose Dike over Thanatos.
|Posted by: Master Daddy V Jan 5 2011, 10:24 PM|
|Oh I could do that. Get beaten up and sue every single person who did so and make a fortune. A Win/Lose situation. I get a hell of a lot of money for it and I also get the holy hell beaten out of me.|
|Posted by: Col. Radec Jan 6 2011, 02:12 PM|
| Yeah, except that the money you get from suing them? You'd have like maybe two million pesos in the Philippines, which should get you jumping for joy! Well, at least until you realize that it's like less than 10 bucks over here in the States.
Comfy living, but only in the Flips. And the court system and policing over there is just a little different-- to put it simply, the beat cops walk around with shotguns instead of a sidearm... and the mall cops tote around submachine guns strapped on their backs. I don't know about the civvies, but from my last visit there, I do know most carry conveniently hidden weapons for self-defense, since they don't seem to trust the police.
Plus, the Flips are notoriously fervent about their prizefighting, damn near to murderously so. I'm unsure how long you'd last getting, you know, "beaten up." And if you survive, you'll basically gonna be suing a whole crowd of people that you don't know, not to mention you have literally no way of getting their names and addresses, while in a country that you know absolutely nothing about.
Yeah, and even if you get past that little hurdle? I don't think any court would be willing to take your testimony seriously, seeing as you'd be the one inciting your little "beat-me-up-so-I-can-score-some-cash-LOL" session. They'll probably have a handy jail cell for you somewhere, though!
It's a Lose/Lose situation, really.
Better bring along a book, because with your plan, you're gonna be stranded there for a long time. But make sure the book isn't too hard, and that you can actually read it. I suggest Curious George.
Also, I find your stance on boxing to be uneducated and arbitrary as hell. "Just guys dancing around the ring and throwing occasional punches?" Okay, sure. I guess that's why their fists are registered by law as Lethal Weapons.
What do you prefer then, MDV? WWE? Oh, it's just fake power-bombing wrestling with tiny shards of glass hidden in every slap so blood comes out, along with oiled-up meat-heads shrieking at each other through their mics in a cliche-riddled, hastily choreographed soap opera-esque storyline. Wait, wait, how about MMA? I mean, it's just short, quick rounds of guys flailing around, then cuddling on the ground and punching each other in the nuts. I bet you wiki'ed Vale Tudo, even, and scoffed at the Sweet Science.
Don't get me wrong, I actually do like all those mentioned, one of my fave wrestlers is Orton, and I've been cheering for Gracie in the old days whenever he entered the hexagonal ring, but see, I could just go on and on using your mindset. However, I can find it in myself to enjoy those other sports in addition to boxing, along with having the class to respect them.
As for boxers "dancing" and "throwing occasional punches"... well, I understand that it's probably very hard for you to conceive of fighting as being more than just swinging your fists around in wild hay-makers, but in Reality, boxers generally use their footwork and conserve their punches to save up their energy for later rounds, where they usually go all-out. You know, because they have longer, harder rounds than in MMA?
|Posted by: METALHEADROY7 Jan 7 2011, 05:26 PM|
| wow. damn i knew mayweather was a prick, but i was unaware of this. i hope he does lose.
|Posted by: Col. Radec Jan 8 2011, 01:49 AM|
| Stay classy, Mayweather.
He's being so painfully petty in his interview, slamming Pac because he tried to force Pacquiao to agree to Floyd's ludicrous test, and when Pacman agreed and took down Margarito since Pac was getting bored waiting for him to make up his mind, Mayweather brings out the "hey guys, I'm taking a year-long break. But I'm awesome, and Poochiao still sucks, right? Right guys?" Yeah, okay sure, let's see how many excuses he can pile up before it becomes a teetering Tower of Babel.
Boy, I really, really hope that the fight happens now, just so I can see Pacman pick apart Mayweather. But Pacman seems more than fed up with Mayweather's antics (And I honestly can't blame the guy, he's put up with a lot of this similar crap before) and isn't pushing to fight him anymore, which was probably Mayweather's plan the whole time.
|Posted by: METALHEADROY7 Jan 19 2011, 06:21 PM|
| i wanna see them slug it out.
hey just random thoughts who would win in a fight between mickey rourke and sylvester stallone? just random thought. also other celebrities and such.
|Posted by: Spartan198 Jan 19 2011, 07:27 PM|
That's actually a pretty hard choice. Both are equally awesome. Look at Rourke in Iron Man 2 and Stallone in The Expendables, and it's pretty much a crap shoot IMO.
|Posted by: METALHEADROY7 Jan 21 2011, 10:12 PM|
| how about lindsey lohan vs. brittney spears?
once again just random thoughts.
|Posted by: Col. Radec Jan 27 2011, 12:39 PM|
How about Let's Not, since this is a thread about boxing, not Random Celebrity Fights.
Here, have a video of Pacman making the most of the Sweet Science... on Margarito's face.
|Posted by: METALHEADROY7 Jan 27 2011, 02:46 PM|
|Great job radec!|
|Posted by: Spartan198 Jan 27 2011, 02:52 PM|
|I seriously doubt Lindsey Lohan or Britney Spears can even spell the word "boxing" anyway...|
|Posted by: METALHEADROY7 Jan 27 2011, 03:29 PM|
|i agree with you sir 100%! As for real boxing, How About Mike Tyson Vs. George foreman?haha|
|Posted by: Col. Radec Jan 27 2011, 05:38 PM|
| Ooh. Good question for once, Roy. Nice match-up.
Let's see... Tyson's a compact puncher, and requires getting in close to do the usual Tyson damage. Foreman's got height and reach, plus the formidable Foreman Fists... well, it depends on which one is hungrier for the win, really.
If it's both in their prime, we get quite a match. I see Tyson getting the win through pure bullheaded bluster if he can hit Foreman hard enough to put him down in the early rounds, but if Foreman lasts longer than Round 4 and 5, Tyson's gonna be super winded and screwed.
But Post-Ali Grill Man Foreman would wipe the floor with Tyson, prime or not. Seems unlikely, yes, but Post-Ali Foreman had some serious focus, serious drive, and he was super hungry for his wins, even though he was old and making a comeback. He also fought smart at that time, taking his time in the fight, wearing the other guy down with jabs and body blows before going for the upper hooks and straights, as opposed to starting out swinging like his younger years.
|Posted by: METALHEADROY7 Jan 27 2011, 08:03 PM|
|Evander Holyfield vs De La Hoya.|
|Posted by: Relative Risk Feb 14 2011, 05:35 AM|
You don't seem to understand there's something called a weight-class. Holyfield's lowest weight-class was Light-Heavyweight, while De La Hoya's highest was Middleweight.
Same problem with Lohan vs. Spears--higher weight-class trumps lower.
|Posted by: Col. Radec Feb 14 2011, 05:39 AM|
| Holyfield, no contest. Roy, dude, you might as well be asking Tyson vs Pacquaio.
Gotta keep the weight-class in mind.
|Posted by: Super Saiyajin 3 Jirrue Mar 7 2011, 10:35 PM|
You don't need to be bigger than an opponent to take them out. Speed is a key factor in Boxing and the smaller guys have quite a bit of it.
|Posted by: Relative Risk Mar 18 2011, 06:11 AM|
Are you arguing against weight classes, or simply denying their existence?
Sure, in street fighting an undersized fighter could possibly overcome their heavier opponent, no one's arguing that. However, in professional boxing, weight classes establish an even, fair match. Heavyweights dominate with stronger punches--inflicting more knockouts, pound for pound; while featherweights utilize their staggering speed to overcome an opponent. Overall, weight classes help ensure fair, consistent victories.
|Posted by: Col. Radec May 7 2011, 09:16 PM|
| Watching Pacquaio Vs Mosley right now. I'm into Round 3 and just saw Mosley hit the mat from his face absorbing Pac's combo. It's getting pretty wild right now. Pacman's having to dig in pretty deep cuz of Mosley's long reach, but as I just saw, Pac's got more than enough power to floor Mosley, he just has to reach the guy's damn chin.
I"ll let you guys know how it turns out.
Edit: Round 10. This is like the 15th time they've accidentally headbutted each other. It's Thunderdome out there... Mosley's running scared by now, Pac's scared him around the ring. But Mos's managed to hit Pac a few times... emphasis on few. He's ramped up his defense and-- Oh crap, Mosley straight-up shoved Pac to the mat, ref counted it, commentators saying wrong call. Audience is furious, but Pac looked like he was laughing when he got up. Doesn't even let it bother him, he's so chill, haha.
Edit 2: Sooo Pacman won! Foregone conclusion since Mosley played defensive the whole time, after trying to stand toe-to-toe with the Pac in early rounds and finding out it was a bad idea. Dude's classy enough to chill with Pac for the post-fight interview, with a screwed-up face while Pac looks like he barely broke a sweat. Great fight! A little underwhelming after the frenzy that was Margarito, though.
|Posted by: Spike991 May 20 2011, 08:32 PM|
| I've only seen one boxing match before, and it was pretty good.
I'm interested in watching more though.
A lot better than I originally thought. I don't know if I have any channels that have it though.