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 Posted: May 14 2011, 06:57 PM
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 Posted: May 14 2011, 09:48 PM
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Good. I hadn't checked, I've been playing Rise of Nations most of the evening.
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 Posted: May 14 2011, 10:02 PM
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I'm just glad it has come back! =)
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 Posted: May 18 2011, 03:45 PM
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Just days ago, Sony finally began to bring PSN services back online after a protracted outage. In an effort to garner good will, Sony has taken a number of steps, including providing identity theft insurance for PSN users and offering free games as part of a “Welcome Back” promotion. With E3 2011 just ahead, Sony no doubt hopes that the worst of the situation is behind them. Unfortunately, it now appears that users may have a new reason to be wary of PSN.

In order to connect to the restored PSN, customers are asked to download firmware update 3.61, which requires “all registered PlayStation Network users to change their account passwords before being able to sign into the service.” Account passwords can also be reset on PlayStation.com. Password reset requests have been so numerous that they’ve been slowing PSN restoration, but it seems that speed isn’t the only problem with the process.

According to Eurogamer, an exploit in the PlayStation Network password reset system has been discovered that enables hackers to change players’ passwords. The exploit makes use of PSN account holders’ birthdates and email addresses, millions of which were compromised during the attack on PlayStation Network.

Currently, users can not log in to PlayStation.com or the PlayStation forums. Attempting to do so brings the following site maintenance message.

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Sony is obviously aware of the situation, though they appear to disagree on the specifics. While they admit an exploit existed, they claim already to have addressed it, and adamantly deny that any sort of “hack” was responsible. From the PlayStation Blog:

“We temporarily took down the PSN and Qriocity password reset page. Contrary to some reports, there was no hack involved. In the process of resetting of passwords there was a URL exploit that we have subsequently fixed.”

“Consumers who haven’t reset their passwords for PSN are still encouraged to do so directly on their PS3. Otherwise, they can continue to do so via the website as soon as we bring that site back up.”

No time frame for the return of website in question has been established.

In its statement, Sony appears to be downplaying the seriousness of this latest situation. Given recent history, though, one has to wonder just how such an exploit made its way into Sony’s password reset process. Sony has already been roundly criticized over the PSN situation, from the amount of time it took them to notify customers to the welcome back rewards being offered. Sony had to answer questions for Congress. That they would allow customers to be exposed to yet another vulnerability — however minor — during this process borders on the inconceivable.

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 Posted: May 18 2011, 03:57 PM
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Hey, SONY! Keep up the good work! http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm97/SpartanWarrior198/Resident%20Evil%20Final%20Days/rofl.gif
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 Posted: May 18 2011, 04:51 PM
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And they still can't play PS1 or 2 games. tongue.gif
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 Posted: May 18 2011, 05:20 PM
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And they still can't play PS1 or 2 games. tongue.gif

Still? You mean now. The launch systems can still play PS1 and PS2 games. And, for future reference, that's called backwards compatibility.
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 Posted: May 18 2011, 06:59 PM
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My original 60gb PS3 plays everything short of patty cake. And I'm teaching it to do that now. Anyway, I don't understand why this break in is such a big deal. Yes, information was stolen. No one lost a dime. Unlike, say when...every freaking 3rd 360 broke down and cost thousands if not millions of 360 owners AT LEAST a few hundred bucks because it was no longer under warranty. And there was really not so much as a batted eye about that. I mean, come on. In fact, PS3 users have gained money through this. With the free stuff Sony has recently announced for all of us, we stand to potentially make over a few hundred dollars (in free games and stuff). And Sony is more than serious about restoring their reputation. That's why they are shelling out for a security system we can all sign up for for free. Could it have been worse? Yes. Was it? No. Will it happen again? I guarantee it will not. Sony won't make the same mistake twice. Besides, I don't see how 360 owners can say a thing. If we had lost money, it still probably wouldn't equal what they all shell out for online gaming and new systems. wink.gif And cooling apparatuses, of course.
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 Posted: May 18 2011, 07:57 PM
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If you're following the news (scroll up), an exploit into accounts was found. Once Sony confirms they can differentiate their ass from their elbow, primarily by not running on unpatched servers without a firewall, I'll be more inclined to agree this oversight will never repeat in the future.
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 Posted: May 18 2011, 08:00 PM
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The exploit is merely the same thing as what happened before. The people have users' info and can use it to change their PSN passwords. Really, nothing has changed. Score one for logic.
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Actually, the first time around they had an administrator's password, whereas this time around they found a security hole. It's not the same exploit.

You believe, in your infinite wisdom, that yet another exploit in Sony's security doesn’t change anything for consumers or game developers? That sounds logical to you?
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 Posted: May 18 2011, 08:47 PM
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Really, nothing has changed.  Score one for logic.

You do know that game studios are already sending whispers throughout the industry that they're walking away from Sony until they can prove new security measures are fortified, right?

But don't worry, I'm sure nothing's changed.
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Actually, the first time around they had an administrator's password, whereas this time around they found a security hole.  It's not the same exploit.

You believe, in your infinite wisdom, that yet another exploit in Sony's security doesn’t change anything for consumers or game developers?  That sounds logical to you?

Oh dear. The person behind all this had best hope they not get caught.
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 Posted: May 20 2011, 10:43 AM
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@Risk: As I understand it, this "new" exploit is just a side effect of the intial hack. They got users' personal information and they can now use that to change users' passwords and get into their accounts. BUT this doesn't affect people who changed their passwords after the initial attack, nor does it affect those whose PSN passwords are different than their email passwords (because the hackers will need access to your email to change your PSN password.)

@Radec: Please tell me you don't actually believe that. While developers may not like what happened (though it did not really affect them at all), they can't "walk out" on Sony. First of all, first party devs have legal obligations to develop for Sony and all of them love working with Sony anyway (if their PR is to be believed). Any other developer needs Sony just as much as they need Microsoft. Have you not noticed the decline of exclusive games? This is because most devs cannot hope to stay alive without releasing games on both platforms. It is far too expensive to make a game to pick and choose what you release on. Then there are also the board members of these companies who are always pushing for multiplat releases because they would get more money. So no, I'd bet money that no developer will stop doing business with Sony, even for a short time. It sounds like you have been reading rumors.
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